tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post1864162876783425809..comments2024-03-22T16:14:12.974-04:00Comments on Old Long Island: 'Cassleigh'Zach L.http://www.blogger.com/profile/04464823999255502522noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-56943874765739725382016-04-11T13:36:14.921-04:002016-04-11T13:36:14.921-04:00I grew up in Roslyn Estates in the 1940's and ...I grew up in Roslyn Estates in the 1940's and 50's. I lived directly across the road from "Black Ink" pond in a house that was built in 1910. A lot of the early houses in Roslyn Estates were built in the vicinity of the pond with the first home in the neighborhood being built in 1893 next to the pond. As kids we used to play around "The Ryan Estate" which was abandoned but still standing in the early 1950's. At the time it was held that Ryan bought it as a wedding present for his daughter but she didn't like it and never lived in the house. A 1906 map of Manhassett and Roslyn shows the estate and only house in Roslyn Estates which was the one next to Black Ink. The area including Roslyn Estatesias shown on the map as the Appleby Estate.David Huntnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-3896312908032737392012-08-12T18:31:14.560-04:002012-08-12T18:31:14.560-04:00Cassleigh facade is masterful and formidable, remi...Cassleigh facade is masterful and formidable, reminiscent of Wimpole Hall in the UK. What a terrible loss for Long Island.Bill46noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-84745459400236415072012-08-12T18:24:29.530-04:002012-08-12T18:24:29.530-04:00Cassleigh must have made a formidable impression. ...Cassleigh must have made a formidable impression. The main facade seems to be based on Wimpole Hall, in the UK. What a terrible loss for Long Island!bill46noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-14815345640756287622012-07-31T08:32:37.354-04:002012-07-31T08:32:37.354-04:00Names, please. It is too late to shield the innoc...Names, please. It is too late to shield the innocent.Inquiring Mindsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-40692767864512272452012-07-31T08:27:43.797-04:002012-07-31T08:27:43.797-04:00Although $250,000 indeed went much further then th...Although $250,000 indeed went much further then than today, please note that costs reflected on the permits are just for the basic construction and not the total finished cost. The same practice holds true today.The Devoted Classicisthttp://tdclassicist.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-20264280620531191992012-07-30T23:50:13.242-04:002012-07-30T23:50:13.242-04:00Am often amazed at how short-lived man of these ho...Am often amazed at how short-lived man of these houses were. Built in 1905, torn down only 35 years later. Built for posterity, I assume, but unwanted and unlivable within only decades.Reggie Darlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04044215790585354363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-22082409494856431462012-07-30T23:07:02.965-04:002012-07-30T23:07:02.965-04:00BCD, indeed D&A had some good moderne moments ...BCD, indeed D&A had some good moderne moments mixed in with their stripped down Georgian----would that some vintage photos of the Bogheid interior surfaceThe Down East Dilettantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13950254669198151850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-57214531024985604702012-07-30T19:08:37.945-04:002012-07-30T19:08:37.945-04:00"By the way, the 1937 cost of Bogheid, appare..."By the way, the 1937 cost of Bogheid, apparently lifted by the NYTimes from the building permits, was $250,000."<br /><br />Pudding. Think the mirrored overdoors were billed to Sauce? <br /><br /><br /><br />-FAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-30797902253871660842012-07-30T16:27:36.443-04:002012-07-30T16:27:36.443-04:00Forgive me if someone has posted this elsewhere --...Forgive me if someone has posted this elsewhere --<br /><br />http://woodsideacres.net/clubhouse.html#!prettyPhoto<br /><br />(Several color shots of the interior of Woodside, the Burden estate in Muttontown designed by Delano & Aldrich.)The Ancienthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11662492574558280077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-9895136047586679642012-07-30T16:19:34.064-04:002012-07-30T16:19:34.064-04:00By the way, the 1937 cost of Bogheid, apparently l...By the way, the 1937 cost of Bogheid, apparently lifted by the NYTimes from the building permits was $250,000. $250,000 clearly went a long way in America in the midst of the Great Depression.magnushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09181183756484194127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-88703243402174127642012-07-30T16:12:41.135-04:002012-07-30T16:12:41.135-04:00BCD- Was there an indoor swimming pool at Bogheid?...BCD- Was there an indoor swimming pool at Bogheid? Two contemporary Newspaper articles (the NY Times and Brooklyn Eagle) reported that the house contained an indoor pool and squash courts as well as the indoor tennis court. I never explored the tennis court wing, as it was being used to store equipment by the City of Glen Cove at the time and was locked up pretty tightly. If I recall as well, you entered the tennis court from the house via a gallery that ran along the west side of the court about 15 feet above the court (it had clearly been a viewing gallery). The gallery had almost totally collapsed, if I remember, and what was left of it was in such visibly bad shape that it deterred even idiotically fearless youngsters like my friends and me from exploring the court and its surroundings. I'd love to know what else was in there.magnushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09181183756484194127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-79586687000624196422012-07-30T15:30:06.165-04:002012-07-30T15:30:06.165-04:00"The Mirrors in the Overdoors in the drawing ..."The Mirrors in the Overdoors in the drawing room at Bogheid are 100% original to the house."<br /><br />Well! Thank you, BCD.<br /><br />-F.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-2894465414281767772012-07-30T14:33:01.973-04:002012-07-30T14:33:01.973-04:00soory --"fan Shaped"soory --"fan Shaped"BCDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-7599867814538963162012-07-30T14:32:14.949-04:002012-07-30T14:32:14.949-04:00DED,
sparkly deco touches exactly -- D&A had ...DED,<br /><br />sparkly deco touches exactly -- D&A had a few moments like that -- have you ever seen photos of the "Sert Gallery" at Chelsea? Deco madness.. Aluminum & mirror with back lights! With ebony, ivory & Lalique fan sheped sconces on top.BCDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-41111823422597428912012-07-30T14:27:58.155-04:002012-07-30T14:27:58.155-04:00So the mirrors were sparkly deco touches within th...So the mirrors were sparkly deco touches within the Georgian segmental arches of the overdoors---and once upon, it all made sense as Delano designed. I'll be darned.The Down East Dilettantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13950254669198151850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-51978345308518104852012-07-30T13:51:06.234-04:002012-07-30T13:51:06.234-04:00A little off topic, but I have confirmation from t...A little off topic, but I have confirmation from two sources -- one of them the designer that did the room for the designers showcase- The Mirrors in the Overdoors in the drawing room at Bogheid are 100% original to the house.<br /><br />still working on floor plans and some interior photos.....BCDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-68638534676446215122012-07-30T09:54:44.708-04:002012-07-30T09:54:44.708-04:00I think we've got most of the degrees of separ...<i>I think we've got most of the degrees of separation covered now, don't you?</i><br /><br />Sounds like a problem for an epidemiologist.<br /><br />(BTW, if the A.T. Stewart fortune hadn't been looted by his executor, Bessie White's family and their descendants would feature much more prominently on this blog.)The Ancienthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11662492574558280077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-21057670930928627912012-07-30T09:34:18.493-04:002012-07-30T09:34:18.493-04:00oh, and one of Cass Canfield's wives was a gre...oh, and one of Cass Canfield's wives was a great niece of Mrs. Stanford White. I think we've got most of the degrees of separation covered now, don't you?<br /><br />Over to you, Ancient...The Down East Dilettantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13950254669198151850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-26667013077195609692012-07-30T09:31:24.604-04:002012-07-30T09:31:24.604-04:00I would LOVED to have lived here ~ and that goes f...I would LOVED to have lived here ~ and that goes for Florham as well ! I think houses like this are quietly spectacular. I would also liked to have lived at The Breakers or Ochre Court too ~ and they're GRANDLY spectacular ! As in an old Ray Bolger song . . . "When I'm not near the one I love, I love the one I'm near."Old Grey Dognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-38898436839981198282012-07-30T09:21:29.959-04:002012-07-30T09:21:29.959-04:00Speaking of Frank Gray Griswold ('clubman, spo...Speaking of Frank Gray Griswold ('clubman, sportsman'---Mrs. G. obviously liked her men outdoorsy): Those of Zach's readers who consider architectural criticism a valid and interested discipline might be interested to know that his sister, the former Mrs. Canfield's sister-in-law, was Mrs. Schuyler van Renssalaer, the first woman architectural critic, and a great champion of H. H. Richardson, among others. I wonder what she might have had to say about her sister-in-law's house?The Down East Dilettantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13950254669198151850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-30423357451742424612012-07-30T09:03:36.133-04:002012-07-30T09:03:36.133-04:00I see that Josephine Houghteling Canfield and her ...I see that Josephine Houghteling Canfield and her second husband Frank Gray Griswold summered at Bar Harbor, but they must have been renters, as I cannot find them owning a houseThe Down East Dilettantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13950254669198151850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-23895545720729189342012-07-30T08:52:56.629-04:002012-07-30T08:52:56.629-04:00They both appear to have died of pneumonia -- in a...They both appear to have died of pneumonia -- in a world without antibiotics.<br /><br />(Now as for how Michael Canfield inherited his poor heart ...)The Ancienthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11662492574558280077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-14982037310806331422012-07-30T08:44:10.089-04:002012-07-30T08:44:10.089-04:00Interesting to note that both Canfield and his fat...Interesting to note that both Canfield and his father died at the ages of 50 and 53 but his son lived to the ripe old age of 89.Zach L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04464823999255502522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-7129412072563626372012-07-30T08:35:14.392-04:002012-07-30T08:35:14.392-04:00DED...indeed the father of publisher Cass Canfield...DED...indeed the father of publisher Cass Canfield:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_CanfieldZach L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04464823999255502522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6807386654523336456.post-15560133689446275362012-07-30T08:31:53.862-04:002012-07-30T08:31:53.862-04:00It seems that McKim, Mead & White struggleg so...It seems that McKim, Mead & White struggleg somewhat when interpreting the Georgian style in mega mansion scale. I think of Florham in New Jersey as another example of a house in the same vernacular that seems to "miss the boat". Not terrible, mind you, just without the firm's expected flair.<br /><br />But perhaps it's unfair to draw a conclusion from two houses among a huge body of work that is nothing short of spectacular.magnushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09181183756484194127noreply@blogger.com